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9 days ago
Topic:
How to add more 'portable programs' to SyMenu

taf66
taf66
Posts: 2
Thank for your explanation Gian. I unterstand more how it works. I really like your Sofware - Great work.

I often use 'SyMenu - Manage SPS Apps' for running the Apps (better overview) instead of 'Search items' in Task Bar.

I wished to run my own apps in 'SyMenu - Manage SPS Apps' without updating it automaticly.
Best regards taf
9 days ago
Topic:
How to add more 'portable programs' to SyMenu

Gianluca
Gianluca
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taf66 wrote:
Hi, Gian
I want also to add more portable programs to SyMenu and create a new folder in ''SPSSuite\MyPortableApps\Capture2Text_portable''

Hi taf66.
I hope you know the difference between making a program available in SyMenu and publishing a program as an SPS App.

If you want a program in your SyMenu collection, the easiest way is to drag the executable and drop it on SyMenu. SyMemu configures it and adds it to your contextual menu automatically.

But, if you want to have a program as SPS, as you attempted to do, it means you want a program that notifies you when there is an update and helps you with that update, downloading the program, dezipping, and updating the local version.
The problem here is that with a custom SPS suite you are in charge to notify for the new update and guide SyMenu with the process.
How? you probably ask... With an SPS file that you have not yet added and that needs to be located inside _Cache folder.

I'm sure this second option is not what you desire but, if I'm wrong, go here to read this https://www.ugmfree.it/spsbuilder and enter into the magical world of the SPS.
9 days ago
Topic:
How to add more 'portable programs' to SyMenu

taf66
taf66
Posts: 2
Hi, Gian
I want also to add more portable programs to SyMenu and create a new folder in ''SPSSuite\MyPortableApps\Capture2Text_portable'' (see the pictures). The folder ''MyPortableApps'' apperace in ''SyMenu - Manage SPS Apps'' but the software in it doest.

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Thanks
13 days ago
Topic:
"Search Items" from Nirsoft suite

jimlad68
jimlad68
Posts: 13
Thanks for the suggestions. I have used WSCC for many years but it is not as "slick" as SyMenu, although it seems to have a smaller background footprint (from my basic Task Manager analysis, 17.4MB vs 62.1MB), but I doubt not enough to worry about. Of course WSCC has things that Symenu does not.

- For PortableApps not in SyMenu I do a file manager search on *Portable.exe in folder ....\PortableApps\PortableApps and drag the result into a new container in the SyMenu Configuration window, and similar for a few remaining items in Liberkey. I must say dragging into the Configuration window has to be done a few at a time or they end up in the wrong place, which would not be so bad if it was possible to drag more than 1 item at a time within the Configuration window.

So for now the most I need to run in the background is WSCC and SyMenu, and even without them running in the background I can Pin my regulars to the Windows Taskbar (or a shortcut to a Taskbar
Toolbar folder)

Regardless, works very well. Thanks
13 days ago
Topic:
"Search Items" from Nirsoft suite

lupusbalo
lupusbalo
Posts: 77
Also another workaround:
Install in Symenu (from Nirsoft) WSCC which is an "integrator" for sytem tools (from Nirfoft or other source ...)
It's a bit "duplicating" some symenu functions (because it also updates Nirsoft tools), but it works fine
Lupusbalo
15 days ago
Topic:
"Search Items" from Nirsoft suite

jimlad68
jimlad68
Posts: 13
Many thanks for the prompt reply, has given me the impetus to check out the manual again. However whatever I do does not include items from the Nirsoft suite via
"Search Items" from the main menu (pop up from taskbar).
But no problem I have my workaround.
16 days ago
Topic:
Update for dnspy

Gianluca
Gianluca
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Gianluca
Gianluca
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Posts: 1275
Topic: Update for dnspy
It's not dnSpy.
dnSpy is stuck.
You are referring to dnSpyEx that is a branched version.
Anyway I added dnSpyEx as a new SPS and you'll find it tomorrow.
16 days ago
Topic:
Update for dnspy

ronen1n
ronen1n
Posts: 6
ronen1n
ronen1n
Posts: 6
Topic: Update for dnspy
dnspy continue to update on this repo

dnSpyEx/dnSpy: Unofficial revival of the well known .NET debugger and assembly editor, dnSpy
16 days ago
Topic:
"Search Items" from Nirsoft suite

Gianluca
Gianluca
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Gianluca
Gianluca
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Posts: 1275
Topic: "Search Items" from Nirsoft suite
jimlad68 wrote:
When I "Search Items" from the main menu (pop up from taskbar) it does not show items from the Nirsoft Suite.


It does indeed.
If a NirSoft program is installed it has no peculiar status, it is a simple item, so you will find it among the other searched items.
Remember the search works on the item names (if you leave the default options). So if you install "NirCmd x64" and search for "nirc" the item pops up but if you search for "nir cmd", well the name is not the right one, so nothing will be found.
Read here for the other search options:https://www.ugmfree.it/manual#Advanced_menu_Options_Search
I don't think it's your case but there are further search settings you should be aware of described here: https://www.ugmfree.it/manual#SearchItems4


jimlad68 wrote:
Although the search works from the "configuration" menu, that does not include Host programs.


It's normal behaviour.
The host programs are dynamically discovered because they can change from day to day. It will be pointless to configure them. SyMenu can configure only what's under its control.
16 days ago
Topic:
"Search Items" from Nirsoft suite

jimlad68
jimlad68
Posts: 13
When I "Search Items" from the main menu (pop up from taskbar) it does not show items from the Nirsoft Suite.
Although the search works from the "configuration" menu, but that does not include Host programs.
Do I need to alter a setting somewhere, or is that the way it works?


It would be nice to have all areas search from both.
24 days ago
Topic:
SyMenu Published App Track

Gianluca
Gianluca
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Posts: 1275
Gianluca
Gianluca
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Posts: 1275
Topic: SyMenu Published App Track
So I try to contact VVV_Easy_Symenu by myself and after that let's see if you can be a good replacement for the PAT maintainance.
24 days ago
Topic:
SyMenu Published App Track

mrx
mrx
Posts: 3
Hi Gian,
those are two very valuable cents.

I'm quite an expert with this kind of thing and I can help you.

Thank you, I would like to take you up on your offer. I'm just afraid that this is beyond my competence, even if the source code is available.

I completely missed the fact that symenu must also have a user agent. I think that if PET synchronizes it's with symenu's, everything should work fine.

edited by mrx on 12/11/2024
24 days ago
Topic:
SyMenu Published App Track

Gianluca
Gianluca
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Gianluca
Gianluca
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Posts: 1275
Topic: SyMenu Published App Track
Hi mrx.

For SyMenu and SPS Builder I use an old FF user agent and a recent Wget user agent.
Usually there's no problem downloading anything with any kind of user agent unless it's too old but effectively you can have problems even with a recent user agent using SyMenu Published App Track (PAT) that presents itself as a sort of browser.

Plus the part where you hacked PAT is interesting but quite useless.

If I was in your shoes I'd try to ask the author the source code. If he still has it, I guess he will give it to you with zero problems. When you have the source code it's easier to make any modification and it could be a good thing to implement new features too. What about a rolling user agent? So when you don't succeed in downloading a page with the first one you can try the second and third ones.
And even if VVV_Easy_Symenu has no more the source code, under his permission, you can decompile the exe and have the source again. I'm quite an expert with this kind of thing and I can help you.

It's only my two cents.
25 days ago
Topic:
SyMenu Published App Track

mrx
mrx
Posts: 3
Hi, it's me again.

The user agent string of SyMenu Published App Track is already quite old, which is why sourceforge.net has not been delivering web pages to SyMenu Published App Track for some time.

To work around the problem, I used a hex editor to change the string in the EXE file. Since then, everything has been working as usual again. Even a little better: some download sources were previously unavailable, which wasn't a big problem for me. If you are interested, you can download the manipulated EXE file below.

The old string
  • Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0.Wget/1.19.1
has been replaced by this one:
  • Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:109.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/120.0
The missing 5 characters at the end have been filled with spaces.

Does anyone know of a better string? I would appreciate a hint. However, the string must not be longer than 85 characters. In this case, the tool would have to be recompiled.



In addition to the modified EXE file, two screenshots of the changes made can be downloaded below. The string starts at offset DD8A and ends at DE33 - a total of 85 characters.


edited by mrx on 10/11/2024
31/10/2024
Topic:
All my apps show "discontinued" now

Gianluca
Gianluca
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Gianluca
Gianluca
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Posts: 1275
Topic: All my apps show "discontinued" now
You've probably not really updated SyMenu.
The SPS suite is now supported only by the last program version (8.04).
When you correctly update SyMenu everything will return ad it was.
If you already are on the last SyMenu version simply force the update of program definitions to fix everything.
31/10/2024
Topic:
All my apps show "discontinued" now

danielsun
danielsun
Posts: 1
I went into SyMenu today to run an update of my apps and found that all now have a status of "discontinued." When I search for :available I get no apps in the list at all. I updated to the latest SyMenu and the issue persists. I have attached a screen shot.
30/10/2024
Topic:
Dragging&dropping a shortcut doesn't seem to work

SvenH
SvenH
Posts: 27
Unfortunately removing the star in the name made no difference and in terms of permissions it makes no difference if I compare to Notepad (see image). But I can proceed by registering the program manually instead.

As for System32, I try to register the program manually, but since it doesn't appear in SyMenu's file list, it doesn't work. In this case, it applies to the SnippingTool, which is not shown in the file list. I have compared its permissions with the Notepad permission, which appears in SyMenu's file list, without finding any difference, see the second image.

I fully understand that it is difficult for you to find a fault when it works for you!

30/10/2024
Topic:
Dragging&dropping a shortcut doesn't seem to work

Gianluca
Gianluca
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Posts: 1275
Well... not a clear idea as I previously told you but, when I have no idea on how the bug is, I proceed step by step.
Let's make an example.


I have a program like this:
D:\\.xy⭐ zk - 00\.xy⭐ zk - 00.exe
and the related shortcut:
C:\Users[user]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\.xy⭐ zk - 00.lnk

If I'm sure the shortcut works on Windows, my first attempt would be to add that shortcut to SyMenu and check the path SyMenu gets doesn't point to the shortcut but to the program.
If it doesn't I have my bugged case.

1) attempt:
- rename the folder using only ANSI chars getting D:\\.xy zk - 00\.xy⭐ zk - 00.exe
- create a new shortcut
- try to import in SyMenu and check the path

If I still have the problem..
2) attempt:


- rename the file using only ANSI chars getting D:\\.xy zk - 00\.xy zk - 00.exe
- create a new shortcut
- try to import in SyMenu and check the path

If I still have the problem it means the UTF8 has nothing to do with the bug. So rename path and program as they were before and go ahead
3) attempt:
- check the Windows permissions on the shortcut and the program
- compare the permissions with another item working on SyMenu
- as before if the permissions are different try to change them and check if it works

And so on.

In other words you have to fix the problem by trial and error to understand what the problem is.


The problem with the system32 folder is a well known one. It depends on the Windows permissions on those folders and files.

If an executable is not working or not showing in SyMenu try to make its permissions more loose.





I'm very sorry for not being able to help you more but everything works on my PC even with the strangest cases I tested.
30/10/2024
Topic:
Dragging&dropping a shortcut doesn't seem to work

SvenH
SvenH
Posts: 27
Don't really know what I should be able to change in Properties for the Shortcut. Do you have any suggestion? Could you test if you got my shortcut?

I have another problem with SyMenu not finding all programs on %windir%\system32\. Do you want me to create another case for that?

(It was ".Skapa⭐ Office - Access" that didn't work, you accidentally typed ".Skapa⭐ Anteckningar".)
30/10/2024
Topic:
Dragging&dropping a shortcut doesn't seem to work

Gianluca
Gianluca
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Posts: 1275
Everything seems so strange to me.

I created a shortcut to a program.
Then I renamed it as ".Skapa⭐ Anteckningar".
Then I drop the shortcut on SyMenu.
As expected SyMenu takes the shortcut and tries to understand what's that thing.
It opens the shortcut (the shortcut properties indeed), finds the target (the program full path), and creates a logical item inside its menu representing the target program not the shortcut.
The only remnant of the old shortcut is its name because that name is used to name the SyMenu item.

In your case instead it seems that SyMenu creates its item linking the shortcut.
This is the problem. The problem is not the error during the item execution but the lacking resolution during the creation of the item.
When you d&d a shortcut to SyMenu you should see in the Path field the program path, not the shortcut's.

Since I'm not able to reproduce the problem I have to ask you for some help.
You should d&d a shortcut in SyMenu and check the Path. If the path is the shortcut's, you should change something on the shortcut and try again, until you find what is breaking the system.
You can try to change the shortcut location, name, attributes... whatever. When you know for sure what's the problem I can fix it.

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