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Frustrated
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22/10/2019
Frustrated
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I noticed today when I checked for app updates all of the SysInternal apps were marked as discontinued! What happened?
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Gianluca
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22/10/2019
Gianluca
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I moved all of them in the main suite.
This way the updates will be published weekly while the separated suites have longer publication intervals.

The NirSoft will be the next.

If you want to easily find all the Sysinternals you can use the Publisher filter inside the main suite.
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Frustrated
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22/10/2019
Frustrated
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Oh ok thought perhaps you just discontinued the access altogether. Pulling the Sysinternals down via publisher filter.

edited by Frustrated on 22/10/2019

edited by Frustrated on 22/10/2019
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Ibubezi48
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06/11/2019
Ibubezi48
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Yes, same here - SysInternals-tab stroke-out - no hint they are moved to the main tab......

On the main tab, I can search on 'Publisher', but there is no publisher-column - meaning, I can't tell which apps were moved - sorting would help?

(it actually seems the ones that I had installed (under their own tab), are now 'uninstalled'? I hope this doesn't happen to the NirSoft-apps: I have about 12 of them installed, but I can't remember which ones, once 'removed'?)

So:
- please add a 'Pulisher' column
- move installed apps to the main tab - keeping them installed
- add some information-banner with important updates/changes (not the complete change-log, only things that have an impact on the user(experience)

Oh, did I thank you for your work and dedication? http://gph.is/2lxU94g

edited by Ibubezi48 on 06/11/2019
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Gianluca
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06/11/2019
Gianluca
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I'm very sorry for the trouble but I carefully avoid developing something for a once-in-a-life change.
Even more because the Sysinternals tab is not removed and the programs are still all there, working. They are just no longer automatically updated.
So, before removing the tab and all its content, install the programs you want to preserve in the main suite please.

The other question is about the lack of any publisher information in grid.

If you want to list all the programs form a certain publisher, please use the search filter instead.
Indeed I think that the grid is already too cluttered. In the future the search will be improved and the grid will lost some columns.

The columns I really want to suppressed are Category, Release date, Virus Total because, IMHO, they represent completely useless information when you read a list.

Naturally the detailed information will remain available in the bottom area because they are valuable when you read a detail.

But, as usual, if anyone as a different idea, please let me know, we have a lot of time before I start developing these changes.
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Ibubezi48
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06/11/2019
Ibubezi48
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Weird - I don't see any apps in the SysInt tab, yet it is displayed - but stroke-out:

https://imgur.com/a/r9sN8Jq

Category is useful, as the name is not always indicative enough? But I wonder how relevant Size is - they are not 1GB installations.....


So, before removing the tab and all its content, install the programs you want to preserve in the main suite please.


How? Because they are installed already? Or can/should I reinstall them only once the NirSoft tab gets stroke out? Because then they become available in the main tab?

Personally I feel you should just move them to the main tab - and then remove the respective tab - less work, less confusion.....
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06/11/2019
Gianluca
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How many Sysinternals apps did you install before the change? Because today you should see all the installed apps with the "Discontinued" label.

Since you see nothing, I suspect you haven't installed anything from Sysinternals before and in this case you have the correct feedback: empty grid.

Is my assumption right?

Regarding the NirSoft tab.

If you installed two programs from NirSoft, when the tab is discontinued they'll remain available in the NirSoft tab (and in your PC and in SyMenu). You can choose to remove them all and reinstall them from the main suite or to leave the NirSoft tab where it is indefinitely or to install the programs from the main suite and leave them in the NirSoft tab, nonsense
but yet possible.


Ibubezi48 wrote:
Personally I feel you should just move them to the main tab - and then remove the respective tab - less work, less confusion.....

You are probably right but, as I told you, I always try to work as little as possible for a once-in-a-life feature. The time I can devote to SyMenu must be as productive as possible.
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Frustrated
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29/12/2019
Frustrated
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Gianluca wrote:


Regarding the NirSoft tab.

If you installed two programs from NirSoft, when the tab is discontinued they'll remain available in the NirSoft tab (and in your PC and in SyMenu). You can choose to remove them all and reinstall them from the main suite or to leave the NirSoft tab where it is indefinitely or to install the programs from the main suite and leave them in the NirSoft tab, nonsense
but yet possible.


Ibubezi48 wrote:
Personally I feel you should just move them to the main tab - and then remove the respective tab - less work, less confusion.....

You are probably right but, as I told you, I always try to work as little as possible for a once-in-a-life feature. The time I can devote to SyMenu must be as productive as possible.



I removed all the Nirsoft utils since they are no longer are being shown in the updates list. The Nirsoft tab is still there however when I go to the main tab and search for Publishjher nirsoft nothing shows up. How am I suppose to install Nirsoft utils in the main tab?
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Gianluca
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30/12/2019
Gianluca
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Well, when I speak about the NirSoft I was speaking of a future scenario. The NirSoft has got currently its own tab and I'll maintain it for a few.
The Sysinternals suite has disappeared and is now incorporated in the SyMenu main suite.
Sorry if I was not so clear.
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chef
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27/06/2020
chef
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Gianluca wrote:

The columns I really want to suppressed are Category, Release date, Virus Total because, IMHO, they represent completely useless information when you read a list.

Naturally the detailed information will remain available in the bottom area because they are valuable when you read a detail.

But, as usual, if anyone as a different idea, please let me know, we have a lot of time before I start developing these changes.



I don't consider these informations useless even for the main grid. But I can continue when release date and virus total remains only visible in details view. For the category column, if you don't want to make the main grid view configurable (i.e. similar to Windows task manager) then extending the result view of search at least by configuration option would make sense.
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