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19 hours ago
Topic:
SyMenu Published App Track

sl23
sl23
Posts: 140
sl23
sl23
Posts: 140
Topic: SyMenu Published App Track
Excellent, thank you for the update will test it as soon as I get time.
1 days ago
Topic:
SyMenu Published App Track

VVV_Easy_Symenu
VVV_Easy_Symenu
Posts: 86
'CHANGELOG:
'2017.02.26-V.4.0: Added menu bar and config file ConfigPAT.txt. Now Help opens forum topic.


If works perhaps the last version ... and the forum attach capability don't admit more smile
6 days ago
Topic:
New SyMenu beta version 5.10

Gianluca
Gianluca
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Gianluca
Gianluca
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Topic: New SyMenu beta version 5.10
Don't worry I already fixed the bug in a new beta I will release within some days.
The problem is not the update itself but the update of a program linked to more than one item in SyMenu.
Probably your Macrorit and CCleaner are in this situation.
6 days ago
Topic:
New SyMenu beta version 5.10

VVV_Easy_Symenu
VVV_Easy_Symenu
Posts: 86
Perhaps bad news: It's the second time that SyMenu frozen after Update.
It arrive with CCleaner_Portable and today with Macrorit_Disk_Partition_Expert (but in the second-last position of update too).
It download and install ok but never finish (frozen with three flashing dots). I must kill SyMenu with the Administrator but the SPS app are well installed.
Gian ¿are ther esome beta log to send you?
6 days ago
Topic:
Out of date definitions, can I turn this off?

Gianluca
Gianluca
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Posts: 598
smile
6 days ago
Topic:
Out of date definitions, can I turn this off?

sl23
sl23
Posts: 140
Anyone ever told you you're a living marvel? wink

Hmm... Lazy, me? Nah! Well maybe a little! But really, if it's not required, the option to opt out is nice.

Thanks for considering it.
I'm now a happy lazy man smile
6 days ago
Topic:
Out of date definitions, can I turn this off?

Gianluca
Gianluca
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The zipped cache file is not necessary to know what's is already added. It helps understanding what programs are currently outdated. Your idea could be useful but, naturally I should implement it as an option: "Don't you want to be notified? Click here." and I simply delete the zipped file.
Indeed it's exactly what is happening when you click on the heart (breaking it...). The zipped file is deleted.
Your suggested option spares you a click every 10 days and two clicks every 30 days... lazy man smile
Well I confirm it's perfectly viable but I have to evaluate it considering the final scenario when the update is automatic. I need to study it.
7 days ago
Topic:
Out of date definitions, can I turn this off?

sl23
sl23
Posts: 140
Nice goal!!! Some way off though! wink

Onto the main topic...
Any notification is an annoyance! I don't want or need notifying of anything. But that's just me wink
AVG notifies me everyday I'm connected or not!! Drives me bonkers!

But I have a solution that works for both of us, are you willing to succumb? Stick Out Tongue

How about this... If a Suites definitions are older than those time scales you mentioned, simply delete them! this makes them unable to be used in an outdated scenario and thus forces users to update them without the need for reminders or alerts. Everyone's happy wink

But, yes, I can see what your thinking, this zipped folder is required for SyMenu and SPS Manager to see what's already added?
Hmm... There's always a workaround, it's whether you're willing to adjust?
I understand your time is Ltd, so I'm expecting this will be dropped. No problem Gian smile
edited by sl23 on 20/02/2017
7 days ago
Topic:
Out of date definitions, can I turn this off?

Gianluca
Gianluca
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Posts: 598
Do you want to know my idea of reorganization for the SPS Manager?
Have a look here https://play.google.com/store/apps wink

Regarding the other topic, the way I use to force the user to update his SPS collection seems a bit awkward but the reason is simple: it's not the final one.
I'm gradually approaching to the final way that will be the automatic and silent update for definitions.

When I reach that level you can't choose if you want to check for definitions or not but if you want to use the SPS system or not. In the same way you won't need to manually check for definition because the system does it in your place.

Why is the checking so important?
The reason is simple. Often when an SPS goes outdated it becomes not usable and can produce errors in particular if the source url changes or if it contains scripts or if the new package is available from the old url. These are the more frequent cases but there are others too. So if you want to use SPS, it has to be updated.
Naturally I will implement a system similar to Windows 10 where you can define metered connections even if the definitions download is very light (1,5MB).

Let's speak about the current situation.
Currently you receive an alert if your suite definitions are older than 10 days for SyMenu suite and 30 days for the other two.
Don't tell me that an alert every 10 days is annoying please. Or better every 30 days.
And starting from the next version (or the current beta) you can deactivate the alerts for the suites you aren't interested with.
So all the checking system should start to be sustainable.
9 days ago
Topic:
New SyMenu beta version 5.10

VVV_Easy_Symenu
VVV_Easy_Symenu
Posts: 86
Testing.... Thank you, Gian.
10 days ago
Topic:
Out of date definitions, can I turn this off?

sl23
sl23
Posts: 140
The way the option is turned off and reactivated needs a rethink.

If you have a constant connection it's fine to deactivate and reactivate in the current way.
But my connection is not always on. As you know Gian, I use my phone at present, this means I connect as and when I need to. In these instances, it would be better to have the icon used to both activate and deactivate as it is becoming annoying every time I restart symenu or PC hearing that constant reminder.

If I could switch it off, it should stay off until I choose to reactivate it. Clicking update apps reactivates reminders, but shouldn't. Because I have to switch it back off everytime I update definitions.

Personally, I don't feel it necessary to have this reminder. For me it serves no purpose. So I would prefer the option to permanently switch it off. If you could change reactivation from clicking update app definitions to the icon, that would be more suitable.

I do understand your thinking and see why you set it that way, but it's becoming too much of an irritation for me. Please consider changing it.

With thanks...

EDIT:
I've just noticed you asked if there was a less invasive way of notifying users. I know it's not as direct, but how about adding a notification directly within the sps manager window?

I've been thinking of a way to reorganise this window a little and try to utilise the space better while retaining info etc. I'm a bit hazy on it at present but will get back to you very soon.
edited by sl23 on 17/02/2017
13 days ago
Topic:
New SyMenu beta version 5.10

sl23
sl23
Posts: 140
Thank you for your work Gian, as always, it is very much appreciated.

Will test it out tomorrow and report back any issues, or good points for that matter!
13 days ago
Topic:
Out of date definitions, can I turn this off?

Gianluca
Gianluca
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Posts: 598
It'll be done in 5.10 version.
You can test it with the new beta https://www.ugmfree.it/Forum/messages.aspx?TopicID=473
13 days ago
Topic:
New SyMenu beta version 5.10

Gianluca
Gianluca
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Posts: 598
Gianluca
Gianluca
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Posts: 598
Topic: New SyMenu beta version 5.10
Hi guys.

There's a new beta version for you.

These are the new features:
  • The unlinked items are now shown with an overlay on their icons directly in the context menu
  • The links to folders now are shown in the contextual menu linked folder
  • SPS Manager - It is possible to stop the monitoring of every single SPS suite
  • SPS Manager - Exe parameters added
  • SPS Manager - A clean update is now reported
If you have some feedback for me, please report.


UPDATE

2017.02.25 - 5.10.6265 version
- Bug fix: SyMenu used to stuck during the SPS update
http://www.ugmfree.it/Download/SymenuBeta/SyMenu.5.10.6265.beta.zip
edited by Gianluca on 25/02/2017
15 days ago
Topic:
SyMenu Published App Track

sl23
sl23
Posts: 140
sl23
sl23
Posts: 140
Topic: SyMenu Published App Track
OK that's excellent, thanks.
15 days ago
Topic:
SyMenu Published App Track

VVV_Easy_Symenu
VVV_Easy_Symenu
Posts: 86
Thank you for yours works.
By default, PAT charge "SPS_Published_Track_File.txt" if exits, and after try "SPS_Published_Track_File_example.txt" that always exists.
If you change " sl23_PAT.txt " to ""SPS_Published_Track_File.txt" PAT charge it by default.
The personalized name of file and size of windows are in relation with the ConfigPAT file included in the TODO list.
Don't worry it will arrive.
16 days ago
Topic:
SyMenu Published App Track

sl23
sl23
Posts: 140
sl23
sl23
Posts: 140
Topic: SyMenu Published App Track
Strange! The SPS Manager performed the update no problem, YAY!
Excellent job with the update, fixing the resize bug too, marvellous!
Can't thank you enough for your work, this will hopefully make things so much easier.
I'm only half way through sorting the data out for my SPS tracks, but seems to work well so far.

Also could you set the default window width smaller please. Personally, I prefer about two thirds of the current width.
Either set a default or remember window size setting would be suitable. Thanks

Oh, just one minor thing, at least I hope it is from your point of view too, is there anyway you could add ability to select a file to auto load on startup?
Everytime I startup PAT, I have to load my sl23_PAT.txt track file, would be a great time saver.
Thank you.
edited by sl23 on 11/02/2017
16 days ago
Topic:
SyMenu Published App Track

sl23
sl23
Posts: 140
sl23
sl23
Posts: 140
Topic: SyMenu Published App Track
Ah didn't think about first post! Doh! AND I forgot about that button! Doh!

Thanks Gian
16 days ago
Topic:
SyMenu Published App Track

Gianluca
Gianluca
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Posts: 598
Gianluca
Gianluca
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Posts: 598
Topic: SyMenu Published App Track
VVV_Easy_Symenu already puts the download link on the first post of this thread.

Anyway as a rule of thumb, when you have any kind of problem with the SPS Manager built in download feature, you already have the download url available clicking the little green arrow in the bottom left corner of the form.
17 days ago
Topic:
SyMenu Published App Track

sl23
sl23
Posts: 140
sl23
sl23
Posts: 140
Topic: SyMenu Published App Track
Thanks for the enhancements, can't wait to check it out.
I am having trouble downloading via the SPS Manager.
Could you supply a download link please.
Cheers

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