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11 min ago
Topic:
Extension Manager - Bug?

Gianluca
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Gianluca
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Topic: Extension Manager - Bug?
Extension Manager works on a system wide level.
So if a file is opened in your system, EM checks for it to verify if its extension is among the ones it manages.
This is the EM behavior in the ideal world but indeed it is not so good and it is able to managed only some sort of file opening.

Regarding to your scenario, activating EM in two different SyMenu versions at the same time in the same PC is definitely not a good idea because the two will continuously steal the just opened file to each other. If you really want to have to EM active at the same moment, you can't overlap their extension scopes. So if your SyMenu A manages pdf, rar and jpg extensions, SyMenu B can't manage pdf, rar and jpg.

Well as I told you EM isn't able to always work as it should. A more reliable solution should be a program that physically manages the extensions changing them in the Windows registry and resetting them when the working session is ended. An example is eXpresso but it seems the developing is now stopped (https://sourceforge.net/projects/expressoportabl/).
My question is: since you are working with a local SyMenu version, why don't you associate the system extensions with the SyMenu programs using the Windows normal way?
1 days ago
Topic:
Extension Manager - Bug?

sl23
sl23
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sl23
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Topic: Extension Manager - Bug?
I've been having some issues for some time, but they have been intermittent. I thought it was either windows 10 or my system playing up. I reinstalled windows a while ago and the problem persisted.

Essentially here is what happens:
1. I was clicking on a JPG file and the windows associated program (XlideIt, installed in SyMenu) was opening and after appearing would then close.
2. Then I noticed this would happen with PDF files too.
3. Again, it started happening with RAR files. but with this I would R-click to archive a PDF file and it would open WinRAR, close it as soon as it had opened, then open Foxit!!!

A system Restart would solve the issue, hence I thought something was wrong with my system. But... yesterday, it occurred to me that it was fine one minute then the next it was playing up. So I thought, what had changed? I'd opened E:/SyMenu to access an app not on my main used D:/SyMenu. As this seems to only affect certain file types I then tried Disable Extension Manager from the E:/SyMenu. Lo and behold, it worked! All these months I was plagued by this issue and it was SyMenu's Extension Manager causing the problem!

I also have the Extension Manager active on the D:/SyMenu so perhaps it's a conflict?
One thing I'm unsure of, when using this Extension Manager, does it simply open files activated via SyMenu or is it meant to work system-wide? For example, should I be able to click on a PDF in Cubic Explorer and it opens the app specified in SyMenu's Extension Manager? Or does it only work if the file has a SyItem and is opened within SyMenu?

It would be a great addition if full on system-wide file associations were possible via SyMenu, LiberKey achieved this, but I found it a bit complex Blush As it was only a short lived thing I couldn't be bothered to figure it out!

Thanks
5 days ago
Topic:
Reset program menu structure?

sl23
sl23
Posts: 187
I did the same thing. Eventually though, I settled for single categories for my main menu with most used apps. Categories with simple names audio, maintenance, media, etc, and with my menu that contains all apps, I have sub categories.

For me personally, this has never needed to be superceded as it works and is very effective.
edited by sl23 on 21/06/2017
5 days ago
Topic:
Reset program menu structure?

Gianluca
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Gianluca
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Topic: Reset program menu structure?
Not automatically.
You could go to the configuration form and reorganize everything as you like but the operation can be done one program by one.
Anyway in my experience, the program organization is never perfect. It's literally years that I'm moving programs here and there searching for the ideal configuration and I've not yet found it.
5 days ago
Topic:
Reset program menu structure?

JPCoetzee
JPCoetzee
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I have all programs installed in "folders named as their category". I want to swap to "folders named as the program suite and in subfolders named as their category".

Is there a way to do that without reinstalling everything?

many thanks
6 days ago
Topic:
Auto detect added folders/apps

sl23
sl23
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Lol think we all write too many messages! I wonder how many users have social media accounts!
7 days ago
Topic:
Auto detect added folders/apps

Gianluca
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Gianluca
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Topic: Auto detect added folders/apps
Wow. I didn't notice the 666 post. It has a particular meaning to me: I write too many messages in this forum smile
8 days ago
Topic:
Auto detect added folders/apps

sl23
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Gianluca wrote:
sl23 is trying to do something more subtle.
His problem is not solved simply sincronizing two (or more) SyMenu installation but using a part of the master installation to create the same configuration on the target installation. His purpose is not having exactly equal SyMenu installations, but higly customized versions with some parts in common.

YESSS < Oh Mighty Evil one! Whaaaaa?
Sorry couldn't resist that! Seeing as you got the magic 666 posts!

A much better explanation than my own, thank you.
And thank you to you too lupusbalo for your help, but not really what I'm looking for.

I have to admit I didn't think about the different folder structures causing an issue. As it's going to cause you too much work then don't worry about it. I assumed it would be a matter of simply doing a recheck as it is when checking for redundant links.

Never mind, thanks for the explanation.
9 days ago
Topic:
Auto detect added folders/apps

lupusbalo
lupusbalo
Posts: 41
OK, understood
I use machine-personnalized sync with exclusions!
this is what I do for some Files / folders
- Symenu config itself
- mainly data profiles for apps parameters specific for a PC (example Sync parm obviously)
- applis that I don't want
that doesn't solve everything but provide a good workaround
9 days ago
Topic:
Auto detect added folders/apps

Gianluca
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Gianluca
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Topic: Auto detect added folders/apps
sl23 is trying to do something more subtle.
His problem is not solved simply sincronizing two (or more) SyMenu installation but using a part of the master installation to create the same configuration on the target installation. His purpose is not having exactly equal SyMenu installations, but higly customized versions with some parts in common.
9 days ago
Topic:
Auto detect added folders/apps

lupusbalo
lupusbalo
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@sl23
I work on several PC where Symenu is "installed"
"Master" is my personal PC
I just sync all of them the following way:
- I use FreefileSync to synchronize "Master" with a 3.0 USB mem stick
- then re-sync it on other PCs as necessary (could be autoexecuted)
and it's fairly quick and easy (only new or more recent files copied)
up to now, found no drawbacks

but I'm sure don't understand your problem!!
edited by lupusbalo on 16/06/2017
10 days ago
Topic:
Auto detect added folders/apps

Gianluca
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Gianluca
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Topic: Auto detect added folders/apps
sl23 wrote:
Due to having more than one installation of SyMenu, I find it sometimes necessary to copy/move from one to another.

You already have something similar. It's the Batch import feature.
You can even use it to import SPS Suite programs from one SyMenu to another. Well, in this case you have to follow a particular procedure but it's a feasible task.
Example. I have two SyMenu installation, Sy1 and Sy2, and you want to copy three SPS program from Sy1 (source) to Sy2 (target).
- copy the three programs from Sy1 to Sy2 keeping each relative paths
- batch import in Sy2
- select the three new executables and import them
- save and exit from configuration form
- now go to the Sy2 SPS Manager and you'll find your new programs

Disadvantages:
- you don't have metadata in your SyMenu logical items even if the description fields will be restored during the first update.
- if you visit the Sy2 SPS Manager before importing, the new programs will be moved to trash.


sl23 wrote:
this is one feature I do like about PA.com menu. It makes reorganisation or even creating new menus for others a breeze.

It's easy for PA.com creates such a feature. Consider that they work only with PAF programs and the PAF programs have predictable folder structures and file names. So if the PA.com menu finds something like xyzPortable.exe that is a good item to import. Further they don't need to scan more than a first folder level because the xyzPortable.exe are all located on their own root.

As an SPS editor, you know better than me how complex and various the normal program structures are.


The only organic solution I see, is to create a plugin that works this way:
- it reads the configuration from Sy1
- it presents the full program list from Sy1 to the user
- the user selects the programs he wants to export
- the plugin now copies the selected program folders and files to the Sy2 paths
- the plugin inserts in the Sy2 configuration the xml for every exported Sy1 program
- naturally Sy2 must be closed.

It's not a complex plugin but it's a big work, and I can't face such a job. This is the reason for which I'm speaking of a plugin and not about a new native implementation. Even better than a plugin should be a separate program like SyMenu Orphan Icons Cleaner or SyMenu Published App Track (from our mighty VVV_Easy_Symenu).
If someone would like to try that, let me know.
11 days ago
Topic:
Ransomware ?

Gianluca
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Gianluca
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Topic: Ransomware ?
Thank you.
14 days ago
Topic:
Ransomware ?

milsabords
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milsabords
milsabords
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Topic: Ransomware ?
Sorry, I misspelled it is Symenu.
MBAM reacts during upddates only, so the trigger may be one app package.
I have submitted the issue on MBAM forum.
14 days ago
Topic:
Ransomware ?

Gianluca
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Gianluca
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Topic: Ransomware ?
Hi.
Probably because you need to download SyMenu and not Sysmenu... do you misspelled it or is the file name Sysmenu.exe for real?


Anyway I've just resubmitted the last SyMenu package to Virustotal and it's perfectly clean.
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/d9de1599f36cf3a73660090439e00f7a36f29774f47d9df6f2ac8aa56b9adbcc/analysis/1497197060/

Do you update your malware program definitions? If it is updated try to report the false positive to Malwarebytes posting the virustotal link as proof.
edited by Gianluca on 14/06/2017
14 days ago
Topic:
Ransomware ?

milsabords
milsabords
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milsabords
milsabords
Posts: 2
Topic: Ransomware ?
Help !
Malwarebytes Antimalware identifies Sysmenu.exe as ransomware during programs updates, and deletes it.
16 days ago
Topic:
Auto detect added folders/apps

sl23
sl23
Posts: 187
Due to having more than one installation of SyMenu, I find it sometimes necessary to copy/move from one to another. It would be of great help to avoid having to redownload then move settings or copy the apps folder and edit config. My proposal is to simply have SyMenu auto detect if apps have been added to any of it's folders and add the entry(ies) to the menu uncategorised.

I have to admit, this is one feature I do like about PA.com menu. It makes reorganisation or even creating new menus for others a breeze. You can just copy your existing app folders to the new menu and PA.com menu just knows they're there and are therefore available within. No Config necessary, other than renaming or recategorising if desired.

Thanks
19 days ago
Topic:
Scroll main menu >> kill

jason
jason
Posts: 11
Seems to have fixed itself, was referring to the floating icon >> square smile
21 days ago
Topic:
Scroll main menu >> kill

Gianluca
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Gianluca
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Topic: Scroll main menu >> kill
Hi Jason.
Which square?
Are you scrolling the contextual menu?
23 days ago
Topic:
Scroll main menu >> kill

jason
jason
Posts: 11
When I open Symenu and click the square, if I scroll, the menu disappears then the icon disappears.

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