SyMenu - New SyMenu releases - SyMenu 8.04 - Messages https://www.ugmfree.it/forum/messages.aspx?TopicID=908 SyMenu - New SyMenu releases - SyMenu 8.04 - Messages en-us http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Sat, 14 Sep 2024 09:08:53 GMT Sat, 14 Sep 2024 09:08:53 GMT https://www.ugmfree.it/forum/messages.aspx?TopicID=908 Message from Gianluca ero35 wrote:
1-I know your negative thoughts about paf support. However, if symenu has paf support, it can be an added value.

SyMenu does support the PAF.
You misunderstood the real issue: I have nothing against the PAF format. It's the PAF format that is built to be used exclusively with the PortableApp platform.
The PA platform is the only launcher with the permission to use the silent installation of the PAF packages so that every other launcher needs to operate at a lower level (unpacking them as a zip file and rebuilding the right files and folders structure). And when you operate that way, the first time you launch the program, you get a scary message that the package could be tampered.
For a while the nice man John Haller, puts a code in every PAF to prevent the execution when launched by SyMenu or Lupo pen suite.
So if I avoid the PAF it is not because I don't like it.

ero35 wrote:
2-It would be great to have a version that can run in WinPE environment.

Have you tried to run SyMenu in WinPE? I haven't but there's a chance it could work quite well.
If you do the test, please let me know how the outcome is.]]> Sat, 14 Sep 2024 09:08:53 GMT https://www.ugmfree.it/forum/messages.aspx?TopicID=908 Message from ero35 2-It would be great to have a version that can run in WinPE environment.

edited by ero35 on 14/09/2024

edited by ero35 on 14/09/2024]]> Sat, 14 Sep 2024 07:22:40 GMT https://www.ugmfree.it/forum/messages.aspx?TopicID=908 Message from Gianluca What I implemented with it is described as usual in the changelog (https://www.ugmfree.it/symenudownload#changelog).

A special mention to a new feature I introduced and tagged as experimental.

Disclaimer!
The next part is boring and technical so you go on at your risk.


Some users asked to allow SyMenu to be pinned in the taskbar. It's because someone uses this Window feature instead of the Start menu to launch her frequently used programs.
Windows pinning is a feature I never understood since its inception but anyway I can understand there's a certain usefulness in it.

To pin a program Windows needs it to appear in the taskbar and SyMenu doesn't have this behaviour.
Why?
Because if it activates a button in the taskbar, that button must have a function (apart from the pinning one).
Because when you see a button, you click on it and something has to happen.

But what can happen in the SyMenu world?
The most intuitive behaviour should be the appearance of the menu.
Unfortunately the menu is a component that needs the focus to appear, otherwise it disappears. But the button you click on the taskbar wants the focus too because that f***ing component is not able to notify you when the click is finished but only when the click starts... Come on Microsoft... another incomprensible behaviour that makes my life miserable...
So I found myself in a sort of hell trying to steal the focus to the taskbar at the right moment, or trying to make the menu appear with a certain delay, and trying not to break the normal behaviour.

All this dissertation to say what?
When you activate your button, you can use it to pin SyMenu in the taskbar, but if you click nothing happens.... poor design!

What I can do to improve this design is to make something else appear such as the Configuration form or the Get new app form, or the About form, or the Options one.
What do you think about this?]]> Fri, 13 Sep 2024 11:59:04 GMT